Posts by Robo Bobo

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Jehovah's Witnesses ARE Christians, why do so many ex JW's deny this?

by nicolaou in

jehovah's witnesses accept jesus as christ, the son of god.

they try, in their own way, to live by his teachings and imitate him.

they pray, read the bible and meet together regularly for worship.. i won't minimise any of the harm and damage they cause but for the life of me, i can't see how anyone can credibly deny that they are christians.. why do so many former jws have a problem with this?

Robo Bobo

Just to add a thought:

Aren't Jehovah's Witnesses forbidden from communicating with Jesus?

They are his followers but can't speak (pray) to him?

That always seemed odd to me...

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Are there any scriptures that indicate believers would die at Armageddon?

by Crazyguy in

probably a stupid question and you'll all point a bunch of scripture but i thought i would ask anyway?.

Robo Bobo

The old school interpretation of Zephaniah 2:3:

"Probably you will be concealed on the day of Jehovah’s anger."

was understood to mean that god's destructive forces at armageddon would be so great that even some faithful would die.

They've recently clarified that "probably" means one's survival depends on loyalty to the very end.

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Judge partially grants, partially denies Jehovah's Witnesses' motion to dismiss

by defender of truth in

"bellows falls >> the attorney representing the bellows falls congregation of jehovah's witnesses and the new york-based headquarters of the jehovah's witness faith in a case of alleged sexual abuse said a judge's partial granting of a motion to dismiss makes him confident the entire case will get dismissed.. pietro lynn, of lynn, lynn & blackman in burlington, told the reformer that u.s. district court judge j. garvan murtha decided it was appropriate to dismiss certain legal theories raised by annessa lewis, who is suing the bellows falls congregation and the watchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc., which she claims ignored reports that she and her sister were sexually abused by a congregation member more than 20 years ago.".

news article.

here is a thread covering this story:.

Robo Bobo

There's an update on this case.

http://www.reformer.com/latestnews/ci_30235457/bellows-falls-jehovahs-witnesses-ask-court-toss-lawsuit

Watchtower is now claiming that the accused was no longer a ministerial servant when the abuse took place and they therefore can't be responsible for the incident.

They've outsourced the legal work on this case. Can't be cheap...

Also, the defendant claimed he "was simply trying to get a bee out of Plaintiff's overalls."

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Here's another one

by stillin in

this guy was an elder.

i'm sorry if somebody already posted this.. http://abc7.com/news/former-oc-teacher-charged-w--sexually-assaulting-teen-boy/1458295/.

anybody know him?.

Robo Bobo

The elders knew he was a molester. They removed him from being an elder for it some 9 years ago. Very glad the victim spoke up.

http://www.oc-breeze.com/2016/08/05/89088_da-seeks-additional-victims/

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Caption This Photo From The May 2016 WT

by JW_Rogue in

her: "i'm really going enjoy talking to young billy about his masturbation problem".

him: "yes, we don't him to turn out out gay, we want him to have a happy marriage filled with hours and hours of reading propaganda together.

even the stuff that is in no way applicable to our lives.

Robo Bobo

Did I cross a line? I can never tell!

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New Monthly Broadcast - BE LOYAL! - Shut Up and Sit Down!

by ttdtt in

the new broadcast is - predictably - about being loyal to the gb.it's a shut up and sit down message.. one of the funny things they keep bringing up is the correlation between the gb and moses.those who don't listen to the gb are like korah.. this is a false choice, why?let's look at a quick comparison.

(this is from the point of view of the bible).

was moses directly picked by god?- yeswas the gb directly picked by god?- well no, we actually are not told how the gb are picked and why the qualify.. did god talk to moses?- yesdoes god talk to the gb- no, they admit they are not in direct communication.. did god inspire moses to write laws and judge.- yesdoes god inspire the gb to write laws and judge.- no, they admit they are not inspired, and they are always wrong and need to change things all the time.. did god give the israelites undisputable proof that moses is his channel?- yes, many miracles visible to everyone one around happenddoes god give jws undisputable proof that the gb are his channel?- no, there is no proof, actually contrary.. was moses ever wrong?- nohas the gb ever been wrong?- every time.

Robo Bobo

Also they equated Peter's loyalty to Jesus with the rank & file's need to be loyal to the governing body

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Speculate now that 2 gb members are 80 will they be reasigned?

by poopie in

jw
friends

comments.

Robo Bobo

Herd is already 81.
Evidently the age standards don't apply to the magnificent 7.

They're definitely going to need to order another non-white gb bot soon

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JWs do Volunteer To Help Worldly Organizations Distribute Food to the Needy

by Athanasius in

some months back i posted a topic asking if jws were now encouraged to volunteer their time for charitable organizations, as one of the volunteers who i work with was promoting jw.org to one of the spanish speaking workers.

because of that, i guessed that he was a jw.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5708790489939968/jws-now-encouraged-volunteer.

well the other day as he and i were folding and stacking tables after distributing food to the needy, i mentioned that after i retired i got bored and decided to do volunteer work.

Robo Bobo

I remember a speaker at a circuit assembly comparing charity work to "putting air into a tire with a hole in it." Because "why would we do something to try and sustain this doomed system?"

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What the Org Teaches #9 There are TWO classes of J.W's

by The Searcher in

#9 there are two classes of j.w's.

's worldwide are deemed by the brooklyn hierarchy as not being righteous enough yet, and as such, are unfit to be called god's children - unlike the hierarchy.

they claim that the riff-raff will take another 1000 years to achieve the same degree of righteousness and godly recognition which they have already been "blessed" with!.

Robo Bobo

Interestingly, Paul identified who the little flock and other sheep are at Ephesians 2:14

14 For he is our peace, the one who made the two groups one and destroyed the wall in between that fenced them off.

The two groups (or "flocks") were Israel and gentiles.

Of course Rutherford eventually figured out Paul had no idea what he was talking about...

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Just realized they changed maybe the most important scripture in the bible.

by Crazyguy in

i just read the scripture then went and checked in thier older bible and it read the same so i check the greek interlinear and yes they changed john 3:16 .

the verse reads "all who believe in him should not perish but have everlasting life" the cult version says "exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life".. so not only do they say one must exercise faith meaning having to work for it but also they changed should not perish but having everlasting life to might not be destroyed again making a caveat where one does not exist.

just to add to the point verse 18 in both bibles says the one having faith is not judged, totally blowing up thier version of 16 but of course they change 18 to say exercising faith too but it makes little difference, since it says not judged.

Robo Bobo

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